Washing the Cyanotype Print

since: 2019/03/30
update:
2019/03/30
reference:
1. Black and White Ink Products & Software - Piezography
2.
QuadToneRIP Overview
3. CreativeLive: Free Live Online Classes

4. Introduction to Alternative Processing in Photography
5. CreativeLive Classes

6. Creating the Step Wedge for Curve Corrections
7. Organizing Your Photoshop Files and Curves
8. Setting Up the Printer
9. Setting the Maximum Black Time
10. Getting the Initial Curve Test Numbers
11. Correcting the Curve
12. Printing the Curve
13. Sharing Curves
14. Paper and Brush Types
15. Coating Process and Cyanotype Chemistry
16. Making the Cyanotype Print

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A. 清洗一: 水洗

1. So now it goes into the water and it's gonna get agitated. And as this happens, it's gonna start to turn more blue. So this process is somewhere in the two to five minute mark. I usually do mine for about five minutes. And you can see that blue is starting to appear. So we're starting to wash off the unused part of the chemistry and the blue's appearing.
所以現在它進入水中,它會變得焦躁不安。 當這種情況發生時,它會開始變得更藍。 所以這個過程在兩到五分鐘的某個時間點。 我通常做我的約五分鐘。 你可以看到藍色開始出現。 因此,我們開始洗掉未使用的化學成分和藍色的外觀。


2. Okay so we've got this image has now started to get this kinda light blue, and this is what you'd expect to see in the wash. We're starting to see the detail. So from an exposure standpoint, that's about where I would expect that print to be. You could maybe go a little darker if you wanted, effect the time a little bit, but the overall density of the digital negative look good. So that piece is gonna come out here in about 30 seconds.
好的,所以我們已經開始將這個圖像變成淺藍色了,這就是你期望在洗滌中看到的。 我們開始看到細節了。 因此,從曝光的角度來看,這就是我期望印刷品的位置。 如果你想要的話,你可能會變暗一點,影響時間,但數字負片的整體密度看起來不錯。 這件作品將在30秒左右出現在這裡。 


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B. 清洗二: 流行洗滌

The second wash which we call the pop wash, it will actually then create the more significant part of the image.
第二次洗滌,我們稱之為流行洗滌,它實際上將創建圖像的更重要的部分。

That's gonna have the hydrogen peroxide, and then you're gonna see that really deep gorgeous blue that we would see from the cyanotype that we would grow to expect.
那會有過氧化氫,然後你會看到我們會從我們期望的綠色型中看到的非常深的華麗藍色

You can start to see instantly, that blue shows up.
你可以立即開始看到,藍色顯示出來。

So this is  a pop factor of the cyanotype.
所以這是一個氰顯影的流行因素。

If you don't have the hydrogen peroxide in there, you won't see that blue instantly develop. It will take several days and then the blue will emerge. What's happening is, the iron is oxidizing, and the hydrogen peroxide is mixing with the iron and causing a rapid oxidization which is why this part happens.
 如果你沒有過氧化氫,你就不會看到藍色立即發展。 這將需要幾天,然後藍色將出現。 發生的事情是,鐵是氧化的,過氧化氫混合併導致快速氧化,這就是這部分發生的原因。

Q: So how much hydrogen peroxide did you put in there? 
那麼你在那裡放了多少過氧化氫

A1: It's a real inexact. It's like three glugs or if you wanna really measure it out, a couple tablespoons.
這是一個真正的不精確。 它就像三個葡萄糖,或者如果你想真正測量它,幾湯匙

A2: I think I put in the instructions it's like, between 30 and 70 milliliters per liter, or something. It's just literally, a splash. The more you put in, the more intense it'll get. 'Cause what will happen is that print's not, even at the state it's at, it's not fully processed yet, it's gonna continue to oxidize for the next several days. So we'll continue to see increased level of blue richness coming through.
我想我按照說明書,每升30到70毫升,或者其他東西。 這只是字面意思,引起轟動。 你投入的越多,它就越強烈。 因為即使在它所處的狀態下,印刷品也不會發生,它還沒有完全加工,它會在接下來的幾天內繼續氧化。 因此,我們將繼續看到藍色豐富度的增加。
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C. 清洗三: 最後水洗

At this point, that's gonna sit in that tray and it needs to now wash and it'll get some, normally, traditionally, we'd have a little bit of running water in there, it would wash for 20 to 30 minutes.
此時,那將要放在那個托盤中,它需要現在洗一下,它會得到一些,通常,傳統上,我們在那裡有一點自來水,它會洗20到30分鐘

In the case of my darkroom, I basically run that through six water cycle changes and at that point, any residual iron's been washed off and at that point, the print's then ready to be dried.
在我的暗室的情況下,我基本上通過六個水循環變化運行,並且在那時,任何殘留的鐵被洗掉,此時,印刷品隨後準備乾燥。

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D. 晾乾


So the other option is you can create screens for your prints to dry on if you can't clip 'em to hang 'em to be dried. And all that mine are are just wooden frames and then the cheap little plastic you'd use, screens that you would use to recreate them. And so basically I just created a series of these. And it's literally just wood with a screen stapled to it and then this'll hold two of these eleven by fifteen prints side by side, and then this is just what my prints lay on. When they lay flat like that, they have a tendency to dry flatter and so, can you take that back? So then the prints will dry flat. For the most part these papers don't curl. If you're coming out of the traditional silver gelatin world, those papers curl up and get all, and you gotta flatten 'em. A lot of these papers you won't necessarily be need to flatten, and if you do, just a minute or two under a hot press will go on ahead and flatten 'em.
所以另一種選擇是你可以創建你的印刷品的屏幕,如果你不能把它們掛起來乾它們就乾。 我的所有東西都只是木製框架,然後是您使用的便宜的小塑料,用於重建它們的屏幕。 所以基本上我只創建了一系列這些。 它實際上只是木頭上裝有一個屏幕,然後它將這些十一個中的兩個並排放置十五個,然後這就是我的版畫所在。 當他們像那樣平躺時,他們有更乾燥的傾向,所以你能把它拿回來嗎? 那麼印刷品將會變平。 在大多數情況下,這些論文不捲曲。 如果你是從傳統的銀色明膠世界中走出來的,那些論文會蜷縮起來並得到所有的東西,你必須把它們弄平。 很多這些紙張你不一定需要壓平,如果你這樣做,只需要一兩分鐘的熱壓就可以繼續前進並壓平它們。

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E. Q&A
Q1: What happens if you don't wash all of the unexposed sensitizer out? 
       如果你不洗掉所有未曝光的敏化劑會發生什麼?

A1: No what happens is, if it's not out of there, it will bleach and the image will just actually disappear. You can put it back in a wash and sometimes get some of that image back, but you will actually lose the image as it bleaches out in the highlights.
沒有發生的事情是,如果它不在那裡,它會漂白,圖像實際上會消失。 你可以把它放回去洗一下,有時會把一些圖像帶回來,但實際上你會失去圖像,因為它會在高光中漂白掉。

Q2: So would you use the same process for fabric or the fabric you're using?
       那麼你會對織物或你正在使用的織物使用相同的工藝嗎?

A2: Fabric I don't coat with brushes. I actually mix enough sensitizer to put in a tray and I dip the fabric in it and fully soak it and then I'll fold it up and squeegee it out and let it dry overnight. I tried using the brush, it doesn't work so well. It doesn't make it very even, which I guess could be cool, but generally not.
織物我不塗刷。 我實際上混合了足夠的敏化劑放入托盤中,然後將織物浸入其中並完全浸泡,然後將其折疊起來並將其刮乾並讓其乾燥過夜。 我嘗試使用刷子,它不能很好地工作。 它不會使它非常均勻,我想這可能很酷,但通常不會。

The other one you could do that is really cool is you can mix those together, and you can put it in a spray bottle and then you can spray coat something which kind of gives a more even, but still mottled look into the fabric which is another kind of cool way. You would just mix up the two together. The other cool part about that, when you start getting into fabric and bedsheets, and bigger things, it's, the chemistry to mix these two is dirt cheap and so you could literally for, if you bought $100 of ferric ammonium citrate potassium ferrocyanide, the next three generations of your family would be working off of that to create cyanotypes. Like, and you'd spend not very much, like, less than $100.
你可以做的另一個真的很酷,你可以將它們混合在一起,你可以把它放在一個噴霧瓶中然後你可以噴塗一些東西,這種東西給織物帶來更均勻但仍然斑駁的外觀。 另一種很酷的方式。 你可以把兩者混在一起。 關於這一點的另一個很酷的部分,當你開始進入織物和床單,以及更大的東西時,混合這兩者的化學成分很便宜,所以如果你購買了100美元的檸檬酸鐵銨亞鐵氰化鉀, 你的家庭的下一代將會努力創造出類型。 比如,你花的不多,比如不到100美元。

Q3: So the mixing of the processes, could you do these other processes you're gonna show you on fabric as well or other fabric?
所以這些過程的混合,你可以做其他過程,你會在面料上或其他面料上展示你嗎?

A3: I think I've seen people do Van Dykes, I haven't seen anybody do platinum 'cause it's so expensive. One thing you wanna note about if you're mixing a larger amount of the two solutions together, is once you mix it, the shelf life of it isn't as long, and so be aware of that. I make enough to coat what fabric I need and then I leave it. If you're doing sheets, of course a bucket would be great,
我想我見過人們做範戴克斯,我沒有看到有人做鉑金,因為它太貴了。 如果你將兩種溶液混合在一起,你要注意的一件事是,一旦你混合它,它的保質期不會那麼長,所以要注意這一點。 我做足夠的塗層我需要的面料然後我離開它。如果你正在做床單,當然一桶很棒。

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F. 備註
    1. So, like I say, in terms of safety, I don't know any of instructor who's ever had somebody who's had a allergic reaction to the cyanotype. The two compounds are really, really safe. The ferric alumonium citrates are used in vitamins. The potassium ferricyanide freaks everybody out 'cause it has the word cyanide in it, but it's bound to the iron, so it actually doesn't release, doesn't release from this process. So really easy to do, a lot of fun.
所以,就像我說的那樣,就安全性而言,我不知道任何一位曾經有人對醋型有過敏反應的教練。 這兩種化合物真的非常安全檸檬酸鐵銨用於維生素鐵氰化鉀使每個人都感到不安,因為它中含有氰化物,但它與結合,所以它實際上不釋放,不會從這個過程中釋放出來。 所以很容易做到,很有趣。

    2. This is a traditional cyanotype of a photogram of some leaves.
        這是一些葉子攝影的傳統青色。

   3. This is a cyanotype with a Van Dyke.
       這是Van Dyke的冷色調。

       The blue is the cyanotype and the black and the brown is the Van Dyke print.
       藍色是冷色   調,黑色和棕色是Van Dyke印花。


   4. Here's the Van Dyke print with a cyanotype.
       這是帶有冷色調的Van Dyke印花。

The little bit of edge piece is from the misregistration of the negative. So that you can actually get the color to show up with a little bit more pop. So there's a lot of options and a lot of opportunities. Here's another one.
邊緣部分的一小部分來自負面的重合失調。 這樣你實際上可以讓顏色顯得更加流行。 所以有很多選擇和很多機會。

   5. The other piece about the cyanotype is we're dealing with what's called the traditional cyanotype. The is the formula that John Herschel, Sir John Herschel came up with. Back in the 1842 range, I think about 1842. As he created that, not much has changed, but there's some limitations cyanotype in terms of contrast, control, the richness of the blue. And so there's been some subtle changes over the time with that. The big one that a lot of people have recently worked with is, Mike Ware, who is a genius among geniuses from the photography standpoint, Mike has created a new cyanotype.
關於氰顯影的另一部分是我們正在處理所謂的傳統氰顯影。 這是John Herschel爵士提出的公式。 回到1842年的範圍,我想到了大約1842年。正如他創造的那樣,並沒有太大的變化,但在對比度,控制,藍色的豐富性方面存在一些限制。 因此,隨著時間的推移,有一些微妙的變化。 很多人最近合作過的最大的一件事是Mike Ware,他是攝影觀點天才中的天才,邁克創造了一種新的氰顯影

 It's a much more complex solution to build, but the Photo Formulary in Montana sells a pre-created kit for the new Mike Ware, the new cyanotype formula. They call it the Ware cyanotype kit, I believe is what they call it. But it's the new cyanotype. It gives a deeper blue. It's the same basic coating process, but it's the process of creating these two chemicals that becomes a little bit more of a challenge, but that's one of the things we've seen as well. So in that resurgence, we're starting to see some new formulations.
 這是一個更複雜的構建解決方案,但蒙大拿州的 Photo Formulary 出售了一種預先創建的套件,用於新型的氰顯影配方Mike Ware。 他們稱之為 Ware cyanotype kit,我相信他們稱之為。 但這是新的氰顯影。 它給出了更深的藍色。 這是相同的基本塗層工藝,但是製造這兩種化學品的過程變得更加挑戰,但這也是我們所看到的事情之一。 因此,在這種複蘇中,我們開始看到一些新的配方。

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G. 其它
     1. photogram 攝影圖

     2. you can buy a cyanotype kit that comes with already sensitized paper
         你可以購買一種含有已經致敏的紙張的氰顯影試劑盒,

         You now get several of the clothing companies and different art house boutiques are selling dye, they call it dye, but it's cyanotype formula that you then dye fabrics with and you can create your own bedsheets, or whatever you want out of it.
         你現在得到了幾家服裝公司和不同的藝術品精品店正在銷售染料,他們稱之為染料,但它是用於染色織物的氰化配方,你可以創建自己的床單,或者你想要的任何東西。

         You can also buy the fabric pre-coated.
         您也可以購買預塗的織物。

     3. So until the print's dry, because there's a little bit of a dry down effect that happens. And some processes like a platinum print, when it's wet, is how it will look when it's dry.
因此,直到印刷品乾燥,因為會發生一點點乾燥效應。 有些工藝如鉑金印刷品在潮濕的時候就是它在乾燥時的樣子。

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